NEED WOOD

I'm looking for a good source to buy mahogany lumber.

It can be rough sawn or finished. Preferrable in the mid

west or eastern U.S.A.

 

Thanks for any help,

 

CB

Chris Craft Engines

I recently updated my connie to diesel and have a pair of lincoln 430's along with Westuburke gas generator. Does anyone know anyone or any company that might have an interest? Please email me for more info. Thanks,

 

George

Chris Craft - Pram

Anybody have the measurements for the wood and plywood that makes up the Pram kit? I got the template for the jig from the Mariners Museum but not the actual dimensions of the material to be used.

Thank you....

   ....for allowing me into your group.  I hope to learn a lot.

Strip building

Still sketching plans for a strip-built pirogue, have a few questions about construction....

What are the dimensions of the strips used in this method? I realize length would be determinate on the positioning of the strip on the craft, but what are the optimum width and thickness dimensions? Are these dimensions a factor of the material used (cypress, white pine, yellow pine, oak etc.) and the amount of curvature to be covered or is there a standard working dimension?

I've got a few ideas I'm kicking around, I'm sure I'll have other questions. I'd appreciate any help I can get from guys that have already used this construction method.

Thanks,

Gary

New Kayak Plans

Greetings Builders,

We're pleased to announce our latest Sit On Top kayak design: The Sabalo

http://www.jemwatercraft.com/proddetail.php?prod=Sabalo

This one has been a long time coming.

A template kit will soon be offered to assist in drawing the panels along with a complete kit for a more turn-key appraoch.

Our Townsend Canoe:

http://www.jemwatercraft.com/proddetail.php?prod=Townsend

Is also now availalbe in a full 16' (4.9m) version.

Thanks
_________________
Matt - JEM Watercraft

New Guy

Hi Ya'll,

     I recently joined the group to get a little practical knowledge from those that have gone before me in this endeavor. I've been woodworking for more than twenty years, mainly cabinetry, furniture, and projects around the home but have always wanted to build a boat. I realized early on that my experience with other woodworking venues would be helpfull but not a guarantee of success and that advice from experienced builders would be invaluable.

     I live in Louisiana, about 5 minutes from the Red River and less than a half hour from 6 different lakes. Guess its time to get this project underway, I'm not getting any younger. I am going to start with a simple project and if it turns out to be my bailiwick, I plan to build a houseboat to put on the River and use on weekends.

     I look forward to participating in this group and contibuting what I can, as well as picking your brains when it all goes horribly wrong (Murphy is not unknown to me). Good luck in your projects, we'll be talking, I'm sure.

     Gary.

 

Pirogue's

I finally got around to finishing up the Pirogue Page check it out... If anyone knows of a link I have left out or happen to run accross... Please let me know...

ANCHOR CHAIN

Anyone interested in splitting a 400' drum of 3/8" high test, galvanized anchor chain? This is Campbell system 4, grade 43, new , made in U.S.A.

$2.00/ft. plus shipping.

62 Connie

Hey Geo,

 

Nice lookin hull on that connie. Looks like they are doing a good job from the pics. Are you pleased? Are you going to have them paint the topsides right away or wait a while? I imagine you are racking up quite the bill down there. Well worth every penny I'm sure... Can't wait to see her in the water...

 

G's Pics: 62 Connie

Help save my boat! Please!

hello all,
i am currently trying to finish up my first wooden boat (or wooden anything for that matter!) project. it is about a 15' redwood strip wherry that i started about 3 years ago as a weekend project. i unfortunately had to relocated it before i had a chance to fiberglass it and am currently paying the price. so my biggest problems right now are:

1) the glue between two of the strips along the side (multiple instances, but same problem) has failed and the split goes from the transom about half way along the side. This has obviously made the boat very fragile and is difficult to move or work with without further damage.

2) the glue along the line of strips coming together along the bottom centerline has failed as well. essentially separating the two sides at the rear from the transom to about 1/4 of the way up the boat

3) on one side of the boat, at where the strips come together at the bough, the glue holding the strips to the bough (there are some strips here as well that are perpendicular to the body making up a "nose piece" <- not sure what the nautical term for this would be?) has failed and these strips are "flapping in the wind"

there are no longer any forms inside the boat as they fell out during the relocation. it seems like if i could somehow get some forms back inside, repair might be possible. the only problem is that the body of the boat didn't follow the forms exactly and i am not sure if cutting new ones to the original design would have enough contact area to support the boat while i repair and finish it. this however is my current plan of attack short of making it into a bonfire. has anyone had any experience similar to mine? can anyone out there help? i can try to get some photos over the next few days to help clarify things...

thanks and i look forwarding to learning a thing or two and hopefully how to save my boat!

mike

JEZEBEL II Update

 Just a little info to fuel the fires.

I have just uploaded the 4 latest pictures

of the construction of my canal boat.

 

Here are some facts that might interest some of you

about the construction of my retirement home (boat).

 

1. Design time, 490 hrs. and still going on.

2. Man hrs. to date, 6,106. 4,200 for myself

    and 2106 from my helpers.

3. Construction time, 5 yrs. & 2 mths. to this point.

4. 193 sheets of 1/2" plywood.

5. 800 disposable gloves.

6. 1,500 tongue depressor, stir sticks.

7. 225 gal. of epoxy.

8. Total weight as of this date, 23,705#

Plywood Information

I am after some information if anyone can help me.

1. What are the standard sheet sizes (plywood)

2. what are the thickness that ply comes in

3. What are the weight of each individual sheet of ply in 3 ply 5
ply and 7 ply. i.e. 1/8" (3mm) 3 ply

4. What type of ply do they come in i.e. Birch etc etc

Any help would be much appreciated.

Joz

Clipper Craft

My 4 month painting project that Wooden Boat Builders guided me through... Thanks

New Lengths now available for the Swamp Girl

Greetings Builders,

The Swamp Girl is now available in 12' and 14' versions.
The plans provide for both US Standard and metric units.

http://jemwatercraft.com/proddetail.php?prod=SG

It's been a while since we've announced new plans. But hang on, we got a whole bunch coming!

Thanks,

 

Matt Langenfeld

JEM Watercraft

WOW!!!

Spokanoemaker,

 

What a neat boat. You sure do nice work. I sure do like

to see finished projects. I wish I was finished, oh me, oh my.

 

CB

Apologies

Apologies for the repeated messages from curragower. Not sure why he has let this happen but his membership has been cancelled until he can get his Inbox "Under Control"

 

Curragower, you are welcome to join up again just shut off your Auto Reply. Your messages were bouncing back and your mail client was talking to itself. Very anoying to the rest of us.

 

Kind of funny when you think about it... Just gotta love this technology...

thanks

I am very pleased with all of the replies to my questions! I would have replied sooner but have had some computer problems. I have also not started my project, but hope to next spring/summer

                                        Tony

Transducer

Anyone know where I could find a transducer (for furasta) with a stem length of 9" or better? I've exhausted my resourses and need 1 before we can drop it in the water, lest I'll have a chore on my hands to install it later.   Thanks for any and all assistance.   Jim 

viking longship

Hello all,

  I am looking for a study plan or a simple drawing of a viking longship, a friend of mine is a school teacher and is wanting it to use it in her lesson plan. I  thought I had one but can't seem to find it.

 

   Also a update on my project , the 12 foot row/sail dingy. I have almost got her hull stripped in should be sanding and fairing by Tuesday or so. I am going to make my own hollow mast, as well as my boom and gaff. Would any of you know if southern yellow pine will work or do I need to try and find something else?  I haven't named her yet, but she ain't told me her name yet either.

 

I'll try and post some pics as soon as I can.

 

Thanks,

      Bud

ANOTHER BIG WELCOME

Greetings to "KENNEDY & TIMBERPEG".

Glad to have you folks join our group. We are growing

every day and its people like you that make it what it is.

Please fill us in on your projects and feel free to post

some pictures for all to see.

What kind of advice can we offer to help you out?

 

CB

Tender

  When (if) I ever get the rebuild done on my boat I am going to build a tender,I'm thinking something 10 to 14 foot long and flat bottomed so its easy to pull aboard and store . Does anyone have any suggestions?

Alexandria Seaport

Most of you know I am working on putting together a local community boat building program. Nevertheless, I stopped out at Alexandria Seaport Foundation in VA for a little tour and a valuable conversation with the director. Take a look at the pics in the photo albums. One cool timber framed shop and office they have floating there... thats the Beavens Skiff (their signature boat) they have standing up on the front facade. They are also the founders of the Family Boat Building Events you may have heard about.

 

 

Connie Update

Hey GShermanGood,

 

Hows that Connie coming along? You bring her home yet?

 

-Kruez-

WASTE TANKS

I'm looking for advise on areation for the blackwater and gray water tanks for JEZEBEL II. From what I've read, the key to oder control is plenty of ventilation so that the good microbes can do there job. That is to break down the waste. I'm looking at using aquairium air pumps, 1 for each tank, with a manifold of some type in the bottom of the tank to spread the air through out the large area, 28" x 54". The tanks are 20" deep. Anyone with any information or ideas? Please help.

 

CB

Good Morning

Just wanted to pop in and say hello and good morning!

 

SCC Potato

"Cheap Canoe" free plans tested

I build a lot of small boats, so thought I'd try a plan given out for free on the net.  Take a look at BoatPlans Online, or go to bateau.com for tgheir "Cheap Canoe" plan.  It's a basic, two-sheet plywood stitch-and-glue flat-bottomed 14.5-foot canoe.  As planned, it's gunnels are 12.5" above the bottom, but I raised them to the maximum the sheets of ply would allow (another 1-3/8"), and laminated a double rubrail for firmness.  Today I added the second coat of epoxy to the hull, finished the red oak breasthook/decks, added some mountain ash carrying handles and peened a section of 1/2" copper pipe through her bow for a towrope. Everything is locked in place with epoxy or epoxy-and-sawdust, of course.

The plans call for no strongback for construction, but uses duct tape to hold the pieces together, instead (The "Red Green" approach).  I used aluminum wire to be sure, but next time I think I'll use fish line so it won't matter to my tools if I leave the fasteners in place. 

This is a very easy plan to follow, and easy to finish.  This one will be bright red with a dark grey interior, and bright wood trim.  Think I'll call her "Firecracker".

JRSloan

Spokanoemaker

Swedish Sloop

http://msnusers.com/woodensailboats/shoebox.msnw?albumlist=2

 

Please check out my website for my wooden boat...

You comments would be well receeived

 

Randolph Williams

dolphnx@AOL.com

!310 827 2727

Marina del rey

New Wilderness Tripper Canoe Plans

http://www.jemwatercraft.com/proddetail.php?prod=Sas18.5

 

Thanks,

 

Matt

For Sale - Two Tender Boats

I have two 2.3 metre (7’ 6”) tender boats to which are both of stich and glue construction (plywood). These boats have been used once only since they were built and are kept under storage since.  

 

One is a flat bottomed boat and the other is a multi chine boat, both boats have the following listed:

 

• A full length keel.
• Floorboards with anti slip floor covering.
• 3 coats of epoxy resin bot in and out and also the have 6 coats of marine varnish for the timber work.
• Both boats are very stable and quite fast under rowing
• Both boats are light weight and low maintenance
• Both boats come with One (1) trolley to which can be used for the flat bottom or multi chine boat
• A set of oars comes with One(1) boat only
• Both can fit on a 8’ 0” X 4’ 0” trailer or inside a van
• Both boats are well suited as a tender boat, small fishing boat, hunting boat or rowing boat
• Suited for two adults or four small children

 

This is a genuine sale, so no time wasters

Have photos if requested

Cost $ 850.00 ONO for Each Boat

For further information Contact: Josemond

Email: joz1971@hotmail.com

Canal Boat Update

Canal Boat's JEZEBELE II page has been updated with the new photos. Click HERE to go directly to page 4.

 

Keep up the good works CB... I am still amazed at the scale of your project...

EARLY SUMMER UPDATE

Just a brief update of the activities the past month or so.

 

1. Layed most of the subflooring in a temporary  condition untill I figure where to

    cut all the required hatches.

2. Installed the subflooring for the pilot house in preperation for future framing.

3. Finished the starboard side bow ribs and moved the jig to align these ribs

    to the port side to install the ribs there.

4. Ran the engines and gen-set for the first time this year. I like to run them

    3-4 times each year for 15-20 minutes to keep the insides coated with oil.

5. Installed the deck shelf down both sides in the area's where they are

    straight. Will start the laminations around the curves by month end.

5. Installed the inner deck beam supports down both sides of the pilot house.

6. Completed building the 52 laminated deck beams and have trimmed the first

    6 in preperation for the deck framing that I plan to complete before fall.

7. Purchased the tub and shower enclosuer and placed in side before all the

    ribs are in place. Much easier now.

8. Built temporary steps to the pilot house. I built these per the design as a test

    and found out they dont work worth a darn. Back to the drawing board.

9. Did a mock layout of the interior to get a better feel of things. Used black

    electrical tape on the subflooring. Found the need for some changes. Back

    to the drawing board again.

10. Total boat weight at this time is 21,270#. Sure hope I'm on target.

11. You can see most of these projects in the new pictures posted today,

      they are photos 175 thru 180.

 

Best of luck to you all on your own projects. Any volunteers please step forward.

Old Site Deleted

As most of you know, this site was created in part because the old site "The Wooden Boat Builder" was not being managed. The person who created that site did so and never returned. Nevertheless, MSN Groups has deleted that site due to the unsavory content of messages posted there.

 

I just thought it was interesting that this was finally done and thought I would share it with yous.

JozB Pics

Two 7' 6" Tender Boats One Multichine and the Other is a flat bottomed

John and Fran's Mason Clipper

my dream come true i now own a clipper

This beautifull classic cedar planked launch has taken a life time to get and 12 months hard work to restore.

Mason clipper

Hi kruez. Hope you had a great weekend at the brickyard pity about the result but thats motor racing poor scoty just did'nt have the pace on the day.

Any way about more important things , we have finaly finnished the interior of "Princess" pics on web site under "Princess gallery" what a battle, bloody upholsterer let me down but we got there in the end, more grey hairs. so now the dilema  sell her or keep her who nows anyway whatever will be will be

Keep up the great site

cheers john

Help on painting

Thank you for accepting my membership request.

I am NEW in the wooden boat world. I purchased a 23 foot Clippercraft 2 weeks ago. She was built in 1983 out of mahogany plywood. The owner of the boat painted her, I am not sure what kind of paint it is. The oringinal paint is still the only layer she has on. It has been stored in a garage all of its life 21 years. The paint at plywood ends at the transome has worn away the topside has small blisters on it.

 

The construction on the side gunnels are plywood strips screwed and epoxyed to a 1.5 inch strips creating a lapped plank look.

 

My big questions are. Do I need to strip all of the paint off the hull before I repaint her or can I sand the good paint and reapply a new layer? If I need to strip all the paint off will a heat gun distroy the epoxy bond between the plywood and 1.5 inch strips? Should I use an epoxy penitrator to seal the ends of the plywood. The boat will be on a trailer all the time with a week being the longest it will remain in the water can I use top paint for the bottom or is it recomended to use bottom paint? I plan to spend many hours on the Pacific ocean chasing salom and halibut.

 

attached is a picture of a simular boat. Unfortunitly I do not have a digital camera.

 

Thank you for any input you might have.

 

Steve

Attachment: Clippercraft.jpg

New Boat Plans

Greetings builders,

I'm pleased to annouce 2 updates to our plans.

The Buccaneer is now available in metric:
http://jem.e-boat.net/proddetail.php?prod=BC16

The Cape Fear now comes in 12' and 16' versions:
http://jem.e-boat.net/proddetail.php?prod=RK-CF

And I'm VERY pleased to annouce a Stitch and Glue version of the world
famous Kruger Sea Wind(tm)...we call ours Zephyrus.
http://jem.e-boat.net/proddetail.php?prod=Zeph17

-- 
Matt Langenfeld
JEM Watercraft
http://jem.e-boat.net/

Picture of the week

Wow. On the the cover of the Rolling Stone.....ah I mean the Wooden Boat Builder.

 

Hey Kruz, I'm honored. Thanks. We'll make steady progress on her. I expect to be in the water by the middle of June and then engine rebuilt and all the other fun stuff. Can't wait to shake this wood boat fever.

 

George

CAULKING

Its time to start the permanent installation of some under water hardware. I'm interested in info for the best type of caulking for beding struts, rudder glands, and thru hull fittings. What say you all?

 

CB

Sound off thread

How about a "sound off" as to where everyone is from? City, State, Country (If not US). I'll start...

 

Indianapolis, Indiana (It's May, Race month, anyone going?)

 

Kruez

epoxy on hull

     I am considering building a plywood skiff(screw & glue), using a high quality ply such as Meranti. I have also been considering putting 2 or 3 coats of West System Epoxy on the completed hull.  My thinking is that it will act as a moisture barrier which will lessen the need for painting every season and add some strenght/rigidity to the hull. Having never done either of these things before, I am thowing this out for some suggestions/opinions! (help)

AN OFFER TOO GOOD NOT TO CONSIDER

 AN OFFER TOO GOOD NOT TO CONSIDER

Greetings all. My apologies for having been terribly slow in getting this out. Computer and Health problems. Limping along....but aaaaanyway.... Welcome to all the new members - glad to see new neighbors......aaaaand....

 

Got an e from a fellow in Australia who happens to be a pretty talented boat designer, computer programmer and all around stellar fellow I am proud to call friend. The following is a paragraph I've just got to share with the rest of the group. This might be an offer "too good to refuse" - or at least consider deeply if you've got the wantas for a summer project. If I wasn't up to my little flat butt in barking alligators I would probably start ordering plywood this weekend. Looks like a great catamaran design, an opportunity for fame and fortune and the chance to feed the greed monster to boot.

 

If you look in the subjects list of the WBB site you'll see a "HOT CHILI" folder there with some sketches and some build notes from Jeff's stash, per his permission to post the offer to the Wooden Boat Builder membership.

 

Excerpt from e-mail from Jeff Gilbert, Designer:

 

"while I was away in Tasmania this summer the Hot Chili prototype project in Adelaide, instead of being launched came to a sudden halt...So I'd very much like a sailing Chili scooting about with attendant photos. What I've decided to do is offer a reward - a 200% refund for the first Chili to hit the water with a write-up and sailing photos. That means a full refund of the plan price and the same again, which means $200.00. For this I need a few dated launch and under sail photos of a bona fide (full size {ed}) non-cardboard cutout Hot Chili containing people and/or dogs. Sky hooks, towropes and Rhino drawings floating at the top of Niagra Falls are right out. This should be pretty fair as no one has started yet, or if they have they haven't mentioned it..."

 

Cheers,

Jeff Gilbert

 

 

 

Hot Chili Plans and photos

http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/r/designs/gilbert/hotchili/hc.htm

Forum

http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/r/forum.htm

Designs

http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/designs.htm

Dreamboats

http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/r/columns.htm

Alleycat 20ft mini Liveaboard.

http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/r/designs/gilbert/alley/cat.htm

Gumboots fast simple 31ft Ocean Cat

http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/designs/gilbert/gumboots/index.htm

Cartaphylla 22ft 8 inch Ocean Schooner

http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/designs/gilbert/cartaphylla/index.htm

Squeezebox liferaft

http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/columns/dreamboats/squezebox.htm

http://www.cfproductions.com/castcrew/alanshaklee/boat.htm

Design Philosophy (old)

http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/designs/gilbert/Ketchup/designs.htm

Other people

PVC/Wood laminate mast...how to build

http://catalog.com/bobpone/coldmoulded.htm

Telescoping flagpoles ...

http://www.dcmfg.com/Flagpole.html

http://www.boatdesign.net/articles/mast-materials/index.htm

 

 

 

Interior design aids

Hi Kruez  I was wondering if you might be able to help. A freind of mine is in the process of buying a 60' cruiser of the late 50's early 60's vintage that definitley needs a major redesign of the interior. not only is it in a fairly run down condition, the layout is a disaster. Question is there any freebe design aids about that we can play with before he starts getting carried away. just something fairly simple that we can design cabin layouts, heads, showers that sort of thing,to scale to make sure they will fit. every thing we found so far is only hull design not inside design

cheers kaspa

Old Boat Plans

I found a site that has lots of old boat plans from magazine articles.  They look very interesting and could be modified for modern construction.       http://www.svensons.com/boat/          

Polytarp Sails or other homemade sails

Has anyone made their own sails from the polytarp kit? Or just made their own sails period? If so, what did you use? How did it/they turn out?

I am considering a polytarp sail for a homemade catboat.

Sit On Top Kayak plans

Greetings Builders,

A fine day to build your own Sit On Top kayak isn't it? We're mighty proud
of her as the VERY FIRST set of SOT kayak plans available.

http://jem.e-boat.net/proddetail.php?prod=CFSOT16

This one is a big one: almost 16' long and 31" wide. She's made for
stability and can carry a big load. Great for fishing. We'll follow up
with 2 other versions:

-14' and 28" wide
-12" and 26" wide

After that, some new styles of SOTs with different hull shapes.

Thanks!

help with bouyancey equation

Hi people, I trust every one had a great easter break. My problem, apart from life, is bouyancy. I dont no if you have seen "princess"  in the projects but she is a 23'cedar planked hull with an 8'2'' beam and 12 degree dead rise, weight fully loaded aprox 4500lb. we have installed a 165 hp turbo diesel instead of the 350 small block chevy that she originally had and the weight of the diesel and leg is aproxx 490kg around the same as the oridginal chev and leg.the problem is she wants to drag her bum in the water all the time. even up on the plane with the leg trimed in she wants to ride with the bow high. if i use the trim tabs to bring her down a bit it just acts as a hand break and washes off speed. My thoughts are this,would extentions on each side of the hull at the transom help.ie carry the water line aft and use them as bouyancy tanks come boarding platform, if so what would be the sugestion for length volume etc to hopefully get her to plane a bit better. i have absolutely no knowledge at all in this area so any advice at all would be appreciated

cheers john

1962 Chris Craft Constellation

Wow. Two months later and we're almost done replanking. Starting to look really good.

 

Thought I was gonna get out of it cheap but no the maritime gods delivered a blow. Seems like my twin 430 Lincolns are seized due to the fact the previous owner had trucked the boat a short distance to another yard and water got into the exhaust and into the engines....

 

Rick Miller in Miami gave me the name of a good mechanic. John Munshaw. John's a hoot and I think we're gonna be good friends for a long time. If anybody else out here is into Connies give me a shout. I'll be posting more pics later.....

 

George

Launchs'

Pictures Posted

I just uploaded some views of a 16-1/2' cargo canoe I built in 2002 for my son in Texas.  She's kinda patchwork patterned, because the salvaged wood all had to be scarfed before it got cut into strips.  For the past 25 years, it had been a neighbor's deck and a couple of mountain ash trees in my backyard.

JR

A Recycled Stripper

Stripper made of salvaged redwood, backyard mountain ash and scraps of oak,, all by hand. Classic stripper construction, epoxy

My Son's canoe, Sun of Liberty, made in 2001-2 of: redwood salvaged from a neighbor's replaced deck; ash from two trees cut down from the back yard; larch and fir from transportation pallets; and yellow glue. All covered over with epoxy and glass.

Kapelli66's boat(s)

On the beach at our campsite

Ramblin' Rose, a much modified Selway Fisher Petite Breise 16 w/ 15 hp Honda O/B power

Canoes

lghiawatha.jpg

Furasta's Photo Album

Nice pics Furasta... Check out Furasta's pics

"63' Colin Archer Styled Ingrid Ketch"

It looks like your hull repairs are completed, and your back in the water. You said before that you were "just learning to sail her to bring her from Va. to New Brunswick,Canada in the late spring".

She sure is a pretty boat. How does she handle under sail? Did you get her back to your home port yet? Can you edit photo album and add descriptions for your pics?

Would love to hear more about your project. Did you do most of the repairs your self? How did it go? How did you happen to aquire such a great boat?

Kruez

News Plans Available

 Greetings Boat Builders,

It's our pleasure to announce the Buccaneer X-tra Wide. A sportsmen model of our Buccaneer. This one resemlbes the Gheenoe brand of canoes.

http://jem.e-boat.net/proddetail.php?prod=BucXW16

Thanks

Garvey designs

My only boatbuilding experience, so far, is a quick and cheap (2 sheet) stitch-and-glue canoe, from a free design at www.bateau.com. I did it more as a confidence-builder than as a useful boat (although it's OK for tandem on flat water). With a flat bottom and a hard chine, its secondary stability is near zero so I can't lean it over for solo paddling. Thinking of fitting it with outriggers, oarlocks, and maybe a sliding seat. A poor man's single scull.

Anyway, I'm thinking of building a Garvey next. The two designs I have my eye on are the GV13 and GV15 from www.boatplans-online.com (associated with bateau.com). Both are "second generation stitch and glue" projects.

Has anyone built either of these? Or any other stitch-and-glue Garvey? How have you liked the boat so far?

Thanks.

Where do you buy your materials?

Lots of places and brands to choose from. Where does everyone buy their building materials? Why from that vendor......Quality? Service? Price?

 

 

Muskoka Canada Wooden Boat Web site

Many Pictures and info on Muskoka Canada Wooden Boats and Sail boats. Builders, restorers, pictures, shows and boats for sale. Lots of things to seehttp://www.portcarlingboats.com

portcarlingboats.com Photo Album

Pictures of the Finest Boats from Muskoka

Simple Boat Building

I found this Online Boat Building book at Woodenboat.net.nz.

Simple
Boat-Building
by Geoffrey Prout
(1946)

You can find the link to it on the review page.

Captnkaspa's Pictures

Take a look at Captnkaspa1's project pics. You can get to them from the Member projects page and Restoration page. Nice boat that Mason Clipper... While your at it. Check it for spelling...

THX...

Kruez

Boat building courses ( long post)

So I stopped by the boat building workshop at Cape Fear Community College to see what they were building and chat with the instructors. I saw some great stuff, and learned about some neat things.

First off, the stuff they were building looked great. They have a 23' CC plank on frame that is currently upside-down getting faired. It has a gorgeous "Carolina" bow that should deflect the spray quite well. I talked to the owner/builder, and he's getting near to putting on a nice paint job and setting up a 150HP 4-stroke on the back. It should be just the ticket for fishing the waters around here. They are also building a couple 14' skiffs for rowing and OB use. They are turning out very nice too. After speaking to the instructor for a while I got an idea of how their course progresses. A student has to take a Marine Drafting class and the "lab" part concurrently. There is something like 3 hours of class time and 9 hours of lab/shop time per week. The instructor said that for the first semester of the course (it's a 2 semester program) the shop time is mostly concerned with the proper use and care of the hand tools used most for boat building. The drafting part is actually not named correctly, as it's mostly about lofting techniques. The second semester is when the class gets to actually build the boats that were decided upon by the class and approved by the instructor. Apparently when the class is completed the boats are then offered to the students who wish to buy them for the cost of the supplies that went into them. Seems like a nice deal.

The second thing that caught my attention is that while you're a student in the program you get a discount at a local lumber yard. This sounds like a nice perk for building your own boat at home!

The course is offered both days and evenings. I think I know what I'll be doing come this Fall semester....

If you look in the back of WB magazine in the instruction section you'll see the college listed. If you want to learn more you can also check out the school's website at www.cfcc.edu .

DISCLAIMER: I am affiliated with the school, but I am not an instructor, and I have no "stake" or personal gain in this program except to inform other boatbuilding enthusiasts about the course.

Matt
Wilmington, NC

Workshop question.

Hey all,

 

Brainstorming here... Do you think that a 20x30 steel poll barn shed type structure would be adequate for conducting a community boat building class and building maybe 4 boats at a time? Small boats of course around 14'. This shed would also have to house the equipment necesary to support a community boat building program.

 

Kruez

Tug Travails

This was sent to me by a boating friend. Awsome pictures! If I had been the Captain I would have entertained the thought of changing professions.

Will

 

http://koti.mbnet.fi/~soldier/towboat.htm

Re:Will's Wherry

Thanks folks for the kind words about my Cosine Wherry. This was my 1st endeavor at boat building. There were times when I wondered why I  ever started, but I was too far along to quit. The Hull is made of light and dark Western Red Cedar with an Alaska Yellow Cedar accent strip. The gunnels and seats are of White Ash. The transom is marine Mahogany plywood. There are 2 layers of fiberglass on the inside and 3 on the outside. I used System Three resin. It took me 398 hours for the project. The oars are made of Sitka Spruce  with Mahogany strips and White ash tippets. Just for fun I'll post an album with a few construction pictures later.Yes, the picture was taken in Depoe Bay, Oregon at the 2002 Wooden Boat Show. This years dates are April 24th & 25th. See you all there?

Will

Cosine Wherry

A few construction pictures of my Cedar Strip 14' Cosine Wherry rowing boat. It took me 398 hours to complete

The Chat Room

Ave Everyone,

 

Your managers have been kicking around the idea of putting the chat room to use.  I'm going to try it this way:  when I come to the group, I'll go to the menu bar and RIGHT click on the chat room, then open it in a new window.  With that opened, even if it's minimized, I'll get a signal if anyone else comes in.

 

With my schedule I usually log on around 10:30 - 11:00 PM Eastern Time, every night except Wednesday and Saturday.  Perhaps we'll meet there.  If anyone has ideas for a scheduled chat, let us know.  Take care.

 

Pax,

Rick

 

Narrow Boats

Canal Boats...

 

CB this one is for you buddy.

Interesting pictures of Narrow/Canal Boats.

 

Stowe Hill Marine Ltd.

Billy Joel

It seems the Piano Man has an affinity for Wooden Boats...

 
Shelter Island Runabout

Cool Boat!!!

Our rank

Hey crew,

 

Just out of curiosity, I took a look at the list of MSN groups of the "Boating" category.  In no time at all, we've gone from Kruez's idea for a well maintained source of information to Number 9 on a list of 906 groups.

 

IMHO the person most responsible for this is our dedicated manager who deserves a round of applause and an extra ration of grog.  WELL DONE, Kruez.  I'm proud to be an associate of yours.

 

Pax,

Rick

 

Boat Carpenters in Miami

Anybody know any GOOD Boat carpenters in the Miami area?

"Featherweight Boatbuilding"

Featherweight Boatbuilding

by Henry "Mac" McCarthy

WoodenBoat Books

copyright 1996

11 x 8.5 " 101 pgs.

For anyone curious about cedar strip construction, this is the place to start. Mac McCarthy takes the reader through the process, detailing the building of an eleven and a half foot "Wee Lassie" open canoe. The nine chapters take you step by step from selecting the wood to enjoying your finished boat with clear instructions backed up by plenty of photographs.
The author is not only a builder, he enjoys the quiet backwaters every chance he gets. The book provides five interludes or "Time Out"s where he tells a short tale of some of his favourite paddling places.
Chapter One covers the set up, selecting the wood, ripping the strips, bead and cove edges and building the molds. Chapter Two is devoted to laying up the hull and sanding the exterior. In Chapter Three he details applying the protection of epoxy and fibreglass.
The next chapter deals with the detail work on the interior, inner rails, decks, bulkheads, the thwart and seat. If you like the traditional look of a hand caned seat, the instructions are right here. Chapter Five leads you through varnishing.
The author recommends a double bladed, kayak paddle for the Wee Lassie so building one is covered in Chapter Six. Later chapters deal with "using" the boat (including sailing), "Thoughts on Strength and Weight," and a troubleshooting guide in Q & A format. Appendices give a materials list, tools, materials suppliers and patterns for the molds. Using slightly different molds (patterns provided) and a little more cedar, epoxy and fibreglass will give you a longer (13' 6") Wee Lassie II.
Speaking of fibreglass, the cloth becomes (and remains) transparent when saturated with epoxy so even though sealed, the wood shows. This allows for accent strips or any other artistry you include to shine through.
This book shows that the author knows what "messing about" is all about.

"Boat Building"

Boat Building

by Percy W. Blandford

W & G Foyle Ltd

copyright 1958

7.25 x 5 " 92 pgs.

This book is a delight, especially for beginners and those who enjoy smaller boats. Its eight chapters give the builder the foundation for six different boats, two canvas covered decked canoes, a punt, and three dinghies. In the preface the author describes his work as "a guide for the amateur with little equipment and no experience." The first chapter, "Materials and Methods," touches on woods, plywood, canvas and fasteners and illustrates riveting using boat nails and roves. The discussion of glues, paints and varnishes is dated, in view of modern materials but good for purists wishing to build as it was done in the past.
Chapters 2 and 3 give plans and methods for building an eleven foot and a fifteen foot canvas covered decked canoe (or kayak, if you prefer). Drawings for the frames, stems and sternposts are shown on grids so the builder can enlarge them to full size. Details for sealing the ends are provided too. The instructions for the longer boat include splicing boards if 16 foot stock is not available. The next chapter, "Canoe Accessories," shows how to make paddles, seats, brackets, covers, a trolley and sailing rigs, including a full sloop rig for the longer one.
The fifth chapter details a thirteen foot punt with curved sides and bottom. It's symmetrical end for end, the only difference being an off center thwart and oarlocks. This is the first of the designs to be laid out and built on the floor although no lofting is required, the frames and ends giving the layout. The plans are first given for building with boards with an addition for building with plywood or hardboard.
The ten foot rowing dinghy in Chapter Six doesn't require lofting either but the author uses this chapter to give an introduction to the process. This boat is flat bottomed, built of plywood over frames.
If you'd rather be moved by the wind than oars and you prefer a dinghy with a slight vee bottom, the next chapter has the plan for you. This is a twelve foot, cat rigged boat with a daggerboard that looks like a good introduction to sailing. The sail is hoisted on a gaff that is pulled up to near vertical, parallel to the mast.
The last chapter brings out the most traditional construction. The plan here is for a seven foot, round bottomed pram, clinker built with a planked hull. This boat has a bow board so there is no fitting the planks to a stem post. If that seems too easy, there's the process of treating the ends of the planks, which overlap, flush at the bow board and transom. That sounds like something I'd have to learn by doing, not by reading.
The spirit in which this little handbook was written is summed up in the last line of the preface: "Finally, the statement that there is no fun to equal that to be got from messing about in boats is perfectly true, but to do it in a boat you have built yourself is an immensely satisfying experience which words cannot describe."

Overview

Greetings everyone,

I am an avid reader, in fact, I do a lot more reading than building. I thought I could parlay that activity into an asset for the group. On this board I'll be posting reviews of books that I think will be of interest. To maintain a sense of order, I ask that you not reply to any of these unless you're familiar with the book reviewed. But don't let mine be the only voice here; if you've read and enjoyed a book that you think has valuable information, by all means, post a review of your own. I think we can expand the subject from building to anything that relates to "messing about."

I can't guarantee that these books are still in print, available at your local or on line retailer, so libraries, used book stores, used book sites or even flea markets or yard sales could be handy.

If something here sparks an interest you wish to share, please start a thread on the General Message Board. If you play your cards (and your comments) close to the vest, feel free to e-mail me. I hope you find this helpful. Enjoy.

Pax,

Rick

 

Catching up

Ave everyone,

 

I need to take a moment and welcome all our new members, the ones I missed recently.  I apologize for not responding to you individually but it's been a little hectic here.  I'll not list you all because my old, addled brain would miss someone and I have no wish to offend.

 

Welcome to all of you, let us know what you're working on (even if you're just collecting ideas; that's part of the process).  Check out our Resources, ask questions, share your experiences and, above all, have fun.

 

Pax vobiscum,

Rick

 

Ahoy!

I am a "new" member here, although I joined up over a week ago. I tried replying to a thread via email, but it never got posted.

Anyway, My name is Matthew, and I live in the Wilmington area of North Carolina. I have been into boating for most of my life. The boats I have had are a 1976 Correct Craft Ski Tique, which I loved dearly but sadly had to sell ( Its still in the family though) when I moved to NC from CA, and the Mitch Craft 516 SportFish CC that I currently have for fishing on the ICW. I have purchased a set of plans from BoatPlansOnline.com for a PK-78 dinghy. I plan to use it as a first build project and a sailing refresher boat. I don't have the wood purchased yet, but thanks to my recent marriage I have begun to acquire a nice bunch of tools as gifts! Hopefully I can get started on the PK-78 soon and start planning another build afterwards. Merten's P21 sure looks like a winner, but I would love to have a classic type catboat...

Just daydreaming about boats,
Matthew

Canal Boat Build

CanalBoat3's member project pages have been created.

 

This is one awesome project. Way to Go CB!!! Stop in and check the progress on CanalBoat3's build. There are 30 pics per page and more to come. They may take a bit of time for you dial-ups but well worth it.

 

Updated pages - Member Projects - Follow the Build

 

CB, 

 

Great job on editing and uplaoding those pics. Made things a lot easier for me. Thanks...

 

If you could, verify the accuracy of information on the member page. Check to see if the pics are in the proper order. Your home port is Dayton, as in Ohio correct? We're ready for more of them pics. Any suggestions as to make it better? Want to add additional description info?

Thanks again,

 

Kruez

MORE PICTURES

Just uploaded more pictures of JEZEBEL II. Photos 042-087 are the new stuff.

Construction Photos

I just uploaded some of the early pictures in the life of JEZEBEL II. Don't mind the pink addition to the barn as it was only the primer.

I do need some help with access to the group from 2 different e-mail address. Is there a way to add additional e-mail address to my account so as when at home I can sign on and upload more pictures.

Thanks for the help.

Aussie Rules

Any one see Greg Norman's new boat "Aussie rules"? Giminee Christmas, Hicorumba, and goodness gracius.  sheesh.

Egyptian Boat building

http://www.osirisnet.net/mastabas/ti/ty.htm

Egyptian Boat building, Now thats throwing it back a bit...

Bayou Boats

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Taditional Boats built for use on the rivers and streams of the bayou country.

Water in the bilge on a connie

A general question.

 

How much water is acceptable in the bilge or is it?

1962 Chris Craft Connies

Looking for any books, manuels etc., on the repair and restoration of these beauties. Most "repair" or "build" are on bent frames or much smaller boats. These were production craft and surely someone has written something on them. Any help out there? Thank you.

 

George

Guidance on Inspection, Repair, and Maintenance

Department of Transportation United States Coast Guard

Guidance on Inspection, Repair, and Maintenance 
of Wooden Hulls

 

Maritime Flags

Free Boat Design Resources

Free Boat Design Resources

 

Look here, and you'll be there for hours.  You have been warned!

 

Free Boat Design Resources

Boatyard Åminne

Found this traditional boatbuilding site from Hanko, Finland with some sweet pictures while surfing. They feature traditional lapstrake and carvelplanked fishing and rowing boats. You will be able to hear my oohs and awes in the background. My garage should be so nice. Here is the translated version: Enjoy...

 

Boatyard Åminne

Classic Glass

A very interesting article about Classic Glass:

 

Classic Glass
by Curt Radford, MD
As seen in "Classic Boating" (July/August 1997)

Classic Wooden Boats

 I have invited the members of another defunct MSN Group "ClassicWoodenBoats". Give them a warm welcome if the show up.

 

By show of hands, who likes classic wooden boats?

 

Was thinking we should start a page and photo album for the Classic Glass Boats as well. What do yous think?

 Kruez

Thanks

Compliments to PackerKrez for a great site. Enjoy checking out all the links. Keep up the good work!

The Magic Towboat

Was doing some surfing for Wooden boat builder content ideas when I came accross this interesting article with some astounding photos. Check it out, heres the link: The Magic Towboat

Chris-Craft Constellation

Hey George,

Sounds like you have a fun boat project ahead of you. A "big" project. What part of the country are you in? Great Lakes area?

When I was a teen, the Skipper of my Sea Scout Ship had a 65' Chris-Craft Constellation. It was named "Six Pack" because his family of six lived aboard year round. It's actually an interesting story if my memory serves me well.

He purchased the boat for $12,000. It was sunk and sitting on the bottom when he took ownership. It had gone under do to a bad plank near the stuffing box or something like that. He was familiar with the boat and had been aboard her on several occations. After raising her they repaired the bottom. Recottoned, caulked, bottom painted and interior dried out and cleaned. He also repowered her with two Catapillar diesel engines and a new or rebuilt gen set. That in itself is no easy task as the Salon top had to be removed in order for the swamped engines to be removed and the new set installed. Mr. Evans was a resourcefull individual and completed all most all of the work himself with the help of his sons.

Mr. Evans owned a land moving business with a large equipment asset of which he sold in order to afford him the time to work on this project. He managed to hold on to two spare engine sets which he converted for marine use. The two that ended up powering the Six Pack.

They spent the next 10 or twelve years living aboard while under restoration. By the time I met them the boat was complete. Absolutely immaculate. The boat was better than showroom condition. The varnish and paint throughout was flawless with the finish of a fine piano. It really was more beautiful than I can possibly describe.

The next tragic event was when the driver of a hemi powered jet boat rammed her on the port side while docked in her covered slip. The drivers reaction to avoid the accident was to cut the engines at which time he lost all possability of stiring away. The bow of the jet boat had punctured a large hole into the galley area and completely destroyed the settee. Fortunately, all the damage was above the water line. She was hauled and meticulously repaired and again better than new.

A few years later, Mr. Evans sold the Six Pack. I don't know the exact figure but the rumor was approximately $250,000. He hated to do it but I suppose he wanted the full service marina he purchased enough to do so. The marina was situated on an inlet of the Chesapeake Bay in Maryland. I had only made it out to see them once or twice after that. However, I will never forget the Six Pack.

An old boat is like an old truck. It does not have to be perfect in order to be enjoyed. Charactor is a good thing.

Kruez

Wood Hand Book

Reference Material for your PC:

 

Forest Products Laboratory. 1999. Wood handbook--Wood as an engineering material. Gen. Tech. Rep. FPL-GTR-113. Madison, WI: U.S. Department of Agriculture, Forest Service, Forest Products Laboratory. 463 p.

 

The Link: Here

ttp://www.fpl.fs.fed.us/documnts/FPLGTR/fplgtr113/fplgtr113.htm

 

Cedar Strip Canoe

Soon I plan on starting my first strip canoe. I'll probably order a kit the
first time. Anyone ever build one from Bear Mountain? I'm looking for one
for fishing and stream floating, no whitewater, mostly single but some
tandem paddling. I have a 17' fiberglass now, and want something shorter
and lighter. Ranger, Cottage Cruiser or something similar. Any insite
would be appreciated. Pretz

_________________________________________________________________
Keep up with high-tech trends here at "Hook'd on Technology."
http://special.msn.com/msnbc/hookedontech.armx

Start of Big Sister Dory

Today I began the layout of the bottom- 9 pcs 2 x 6 tounge and groove  16 footers. When trimmed the bottom will measure 15' 3" stem to stern.  Max width at 45".  Pictures when it looks like something.

Joe Morris

Start that boat yet?

Hey Gasfish,

 

You start building that boat yet? Was reading your post over on small boat. What did you decide on? Hows the weather in Panama this time of year?

 

Kruez

Chesapeake Light Craft

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Chesapeake Light Craft designs and manufactures the world's most popular kayak kits and plans.
http://www.clcboats.com/

Gar Wood

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Cartaphylla

 

by Prairie Schooner Greetings PackerKruez and the newly forming 'gang' - work gang that is... Glad to see this new forum for us 'wannabes and gonnabes. Truly, such stuff are dreams made of. Locked in the house to run with the dream-machine, as the great out of doors and garage-shop is frigid aired to the painful extreme these days. Great weather for skiing, but there's not a ski-able mount anywhere to be seen here on the prairie and my knees just wouldn't enjoy it any more.

As to plans for a build... No doubt I'm "preaching to the choir" here but....After having studied and pondered and changed my mind more times than my mind can easily tolerate,

I've pretty much decided on a design by an Australian fellow by the name of Jeff Gilbert. I'm sure you've seen some of his craft on the web. Here's a link that comes to mind. You'll have to contact Jeff directly about my build choice however. It's not yet readily available as a package as far as I know. I'm certain a little encouragement and some shekels in the mail would move Cartaphylla's (my build-hope) design into the open a little more. Contrary to popular belief, boat designers do not live a life of luxury. It costs to put a design into the public eye. Aside from builders' encouragement the poor fellows need to keep the galley stocked and Aspirin in the larder. (A shameless plea to throw some business his direction).... Mr. Gilbert's "Cartaphylla" is my choice. This is a new plan not yet readily available as a "complete plan kit" and I believe only one is in build at present. I'll attach a drawing of the 5-ft beam version in this e. Jeff has done a mod version of some 5'8" beam, which I am opting for. Although my sailing grounds are in Tornado Alley I worry less about knockdown recovery here in mid-continent waters than a little more room for the 'oh so necessary' schmang we boaters require for our comfort and clutter factors. She should still be extremely efficient and track like a dart. Note that the ballast is unconventional as all get-out. It's a lead filled oil/water-drilling pipe that is attached externally. Extremely clever in my opinion and manufacture easily jobbed out rather than attempting a forge in my back yard. A 'reality' to deal with for a great many designs is the requirement of forging your own ballast. I want the neighbors to wonder and oohahh at my project, but not phone in frantic calls to the EPA, neighborhood watch, DEA and whomsoever would freak at billowing forge fumes and the squeal of lead pours through the night. I have chosen Cartaphylla partially because of a pioneer spirit in that by building from offsets and ideas still in development I can throw a little more of me into the project as opposed to a completely developed set of plans, building schedule, et al. But this thought leads me to a thought. How much of the 'brain work' do you want prearranged for you? What are you prepared for? How much building experience do you have? How brave (fat, dumb and happy) are you? Sometimes I peg the fat, dumb and happy meter....planning projects it would take pharaoh's minions to accomplish. This is no lightweight project on our minds here gang. Be a smart scout. Be Prepared! Do some real soul searching and research before you jump into the building frenzy. Remember always as well, whatever the plans say about build time, expense and ease.... multiply that estimation by some factor approaching the yield of atom bombs. Well, at least double the estimate... The issue of what to build is one that has been both a joy and a curse. There are so many designs to choose from and so many personal options to consider, that making a final decision is a labor of love and hate, and a perfect appeasement for the procrastinator lodged in all of us in some degree or another. It is my firm belief that one should consider wants and 'realities' very carefully before jumping into this marriage-like project. For some, ripping a boat together on the garage floor is as simple and joyous as the magazines and web sites would have one think. For others, myself included...I figure this will be my only build in this lifetime and so I want it exactly right. Whatever our criteria for a plan might be...the choosing is one of the most important and perhaps most enjoyable aspects of the entire project. I'd suggest doing a lot of reading, (so many building philosophies out there!) comparing, monitoring the reality meter, and perhaps purchasing of several to many study plans and the like prior to deciding on the eventual 'companion'. In the process of preparing, you will fall in and out lust for many designs and learn more than you ever expected through the process. Another plus in taking a goodly time to decide is the benefit of learning more than you might suspect about your dream boat and boats in general. Needs and wants will change many times. It is an awful thing to realize this enormous investment cluttering up the workshop just isn't what you really want half way through the project. I'm reminded of a wise sage's advice long ago. "If you're going to jump off a bridge, jump off a short one. You'd hate to change your mind half way down." Take some extra time. Weigh out your options. Weigh out your needs. Weigh out the availability of your chosen build materials. Weigh out the build-ability in your environs Weigh out the livability of your decision and communicate, communicate, communicate. Silent friends are only good as pallbearers. You will need help. But do follow YOUR dream. You will need the cooperation of your friends and neighbors. Throw their input into the brain glue-pot. You will need the loving tolerance of your life partner as well. Include them in your decision making process. After all, they will have to live with your joy and frustration as much and as often as you. Most of all, enjoy the flirtation with the possibilities. The choosing is a joyous process filled with the possibilities and realities of working toward the fulfillment of pretty big dreams. Just imagine the joy of sitting in the cockpit in the driveway or on the water, proud as a newborns parent, your decision beneath your stroking hand. "I chose this. I BUILT THIS!" Cheers and happy hunting.