Hi Kruez I was wondering if you might be able to help. A freind of mine is in the process of buying a 60' cruiser of the late 50's early 60's vintage that definitley needs a major redesign of the interior. not only is it in a fairly run down condition, the layout is a disaster. Question is there any freebe design aids about that we can play with before he starts getting carried away. just something fairly simple that we can design cabin layouts, heads, showers that sort of thing,to scale to make sure they will fit. every thing we found so far is only hull design not inside design
cheers kaspa
He's back from the dead with a bit of advice......Aw Shucks, him again....lol Two little pieces of advice; 1. just for planning a bit on pooter, you can use any drawing program to fiddle about with possibles - albeit they won't be three dee with puppies, poppies and dancing bears. But, if pen and paper scares you, there's always that possibility. Just be sure to set a grid pattern in scale in the document so you can approximate square footage et. al. I'd definitely follow Kruez's lead and look over "Boat Data" book for realistic measurements of people and thangs before you get too deep in this. Another really good idea; 2. Cardboard boxes, a long piece of rope and your driveway. Mark out the outlines of your actual spaces with the rope (you can even do an outer deck line with rope to give you a feel for overall space and shippiness (might even scare you out of this little project you have in mind seeing just how big this sucker is!!!!) Use boxes and/or models built from cardboard for pieces of 'furniture' and 'things' you plan to stuff aboard the remodel, move them about the roped off spaces and use your imagination. Fits and non-fits, abused entrances/traffic flows/tanks/plumbing etc will soon reveal themselves to you as you move stuff around your lifesize model, stub your toes, realize she's listing like the devil now and all that goodly/badly detail that comes from a walkabout. Might seem like a bit of labor for a moment but NOT when you consider what you're considering taking on. Don't touch a saw till you've thought this one through a lonnnnng time. Cheerz, PS1
ReplyDeleteHi Kruez. beleive me it is, after 40 years of alterations by previose owners its hard to see the original design any more. all the major mechanicals , tanks etc are ok. its just the cabins heads galley etc. but i think your right it's just a matter of running around with a tape and working it out. have been in touch with Peter, the master who was responsible for the major work on "Princess" and he's willing to have a look, so we'll see what happens. he also has a copy of the "book" he will loan me so that should help.will try and upload a pic for your scutiney cheers kaspa
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I'll second the motion to develop a mock up out cardboard, rope, chalk lines, etc. I do custom designs of canoes and kayak for some builders. We do it all by bouncing e-mails back and forth. That's what I recommend they do when they're not sure if a certain shear height or beam is what they want. Works out well. You'll be busy with a 60' model, but it'll be well worth it. Get some graph paper and use 1 grid = one foot (or metric). Only catch I'd see is the heights might be tough to simulate. But those are pretty dictated for you already. For space savers, think fold out or dual purpose stuff. Matt Langenfeld JEM Watercraft http://jem.e-boat.net
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