Showing posts with label 08qtr1. Show all posts
Showing posts with label 08qtr1. Show all posts

Monday, March 24, 2008

Questions on Piro - opinions needed

Ok, I put her in the water and she floated fine, the problem was with stability and how much of the sides was left above water when I was in it.
 
Reminder on demensions, total length 11'5" at gunnels, 10'6" at floor, Max width at floor in center of length 26", sides flaired to max at 34" in center, it is symetrically tapered to the ends, and the sides are 11" high in the middle and 12 at ends
It seemed like the sides were about 3-4" submerged with me at about 195 and nothing else in the boat. I'm guessing the angle of the sides from the bottom is about 12-15 degrees.
 
I quickly discovered the seats will likely have to go, sitting on them made the boat feel like it was gonna go over any second, but I was able to balance. I am about 6'4 so sitting height is about 3 feet if I'm sitting up straight, Is it normal for the canoe to feel that unstable, or am I expecting to much from such a small boat?
 
Sitting on the floor seemed better, not as tippy feeling, I could probably deal with it, but not sure how wife will feel about it.
 
It seemed to paddle easily, a couple strokes and she was scooting, and seemed easy to keep going strait the little I actually paddled, I was not sure of the ability of the boat, or mine since I have not canoed much in the past,  and the water was too cold to swim so I did not do much.
 
So now for the questions.
Is this thing too small to be useful for calm water canoeing?
 
Did I make my sides too short for adequite displacement to carry about 345 lbs total weight
 
Is the stability directly related to the bottom being too narrow or too short?
 
I only have about 65 dollars material and 5-10  hours labor in it, should I scrap it and start over with a slightly larger plan? Or take the seats out and see how It works for us in calm water?
 
 
Attachment: Piro painted.jpg

Thursday, March 20, 2008

Prio Painted - ready for trial tomorrow

Got this thing painted, gonna trial run tomorrow, will let ya'll know if I end up swimming.
Attachment: Piro painted.jpg

Monday, March 17, 2008

Pironoe Primed,

Got her primed, now I have to decide on color,
 
 I have some not quite dark green, and not quite barn red, and some white,  high quality exterior grade paint available, so red w green trim or green with red trim or white with green or red trim?
 
Wondering about inside color also, same as outside? or completely different?
 
I guess trim will equil the rub rail and seats
 
all opinions welcome
 
Regards, RJW
Attachment: pironoe primed.jpg

Sunday, March 16, 2008

Forward rowing

Does anyone know of plans I might obtain to build a forward rowing aparatus? In the movie U.S.Marshalls, Wesley Snipes' character steals a boat (it looked like a pirogue) with oars that have what I would call elbows for lack of a better description. As he drew back on the oars' handles, the blades would pull back. I saw a similar device sold on the web but it was a bit pricey. I'd like to try my hand at building one if anyone knows of plans anywhere.

Thanks

Friday, March 14, 2008

Flapjack

Well I just wanted to touch base with everyone. It seems like we have had a long, wet winter but the weather here in Nor. Cal. Has finally started to cooperate and I am making progress on the Flapjack. I have just added a few photos for anyone interested. You will at least be able to get an idea of what she looks like. I have made some progress since these pix were taken and will probably post some more pix next week. I just got an order from Jamestown Distributors today with my oarlocks and oar leathers. I have the interior sanding almost finished and plan to start painting next wk. With any luck at all I should have her in the water by the first part of May. It will be a while before I have her mast built but I am looking forward to getting on the water and logging some rowing time. I will be in touch soon. In the meantime I am comforted by the spirit of the immortal Ratty who so wisely noted that, “There is nothing, absolutely nothing, half so much worth doing, as simply messing about with boats.”

 

 

Until next time,

 

 

Winks

Wednesday, March 12, 2008

Prime and Paint Question

I am building with a modified stitch and glue, I have used PL Premium polyurethane construction adhesive for my seams, stuff is strong, waterproof and I found once fully cured the plywood will fail way before the glue. It will take paint according to manufacture.
 
now the question, all the "stitch and glue" techniques call for fiberglass tape and resin at the seems inside and outside, (more expensive than I want) and all I have found built this way are left clear coated with the resin.
 
I plan to apply two coats of exterior wood primer and paint inside and outside, do I have to apply fiberglass and resin to my plywood, this boat will be used maybe 10 times a year during camping trips and stored inside a climate controlled shop.
 
 

Monday, March 10, 2008

New to Forum RJ

Hello everyone,
I just wanted to introduce myself, I am new here and new to wooden boat building. A few weekends ago my wife and I were camping, and talked about renting a canoe for the day. It was windy and we decided against it, but it got me thinking (obsessing) about owning a small canoe that I could throw on top of the SUV when going to camp and use in lakes or rivers. I wanted something with a shallow draft, yet stable since neither my wife or I have ever been in a canoe. I looked at prices/weights/sizes on factory built canoes/kyaks (outrageous)and then hit on the wooden canoe idea, many web searches later I decided I could easily build something sized right, and priced right,  with my background in wood work I had any tool I might need, so I decided on a simple piroque plan, combined with a couple other ideas from various free downloads, and came up with a plan. (currently about 1/2 finished)
 I dont have the demensions with me today, but will post them later, along with a pic of the finished product, for ease of finishing she will be painted, but I'm thinking of a stained finished for my second project if this one floats...
 
Regards from TX,
RJ
 
 

Thursday, March 6, 2008

hey hey atlast

Hi  Me harties I am getting to add photos after all and I did exactly the same as the last time when it would not let me? confused / dam pcs boats much easier.
Picture under title "8ft rowing boat" , did you know you can only access the pictures from the home page or is it me and the fight with this dam pc thingy?!"짙$%^^&****
sail on.
Bogsdolics.
 

Saturday, March 1, 2008

West Marine Catalog 2008

The new catalog is out for West Marine - You can view it on line or order a paper copy through the link below.
 
 
Andy

Thursday, February 28, 2008

new book

Hi all just got BUILDING SKIN-ON-FRAME BOATS by Robert Morris can't wait to get started reading,
 Might never build a skin boat but just love anything to do with wooden boat building and I can dream
Still to finish new seat for canoe then don't know what next project will be
If Kruez is around , could you help me to down load pictures or set up another members project thanks
Bogsdolics 

Sunday, February 24, 2008

Devlin boat detail pictures

I took a bunch of detail photos of Sam Devlin boats when I was in Olympia last month. Would any of you be interested in having me make an album of some of them? What details are you interested in? I know I look at different things as my building project continues.
 
On kind of a related topic, I've got a bunch of photos of tug boats if you're interested:

Sunday, February 17, 2008

Dug-out Canoe Question

I'm hoping somebody will be able to help me find info on dug-out canoes.  We bought a home in so Cal and discovered the canoe hanging from the rafters in the garage.  This is the first time this home has been sold outside of the family since it was built by the owner in the early 1960s.  We have alot of stuff to go thro but the canoe is the most interesting find so far.
 
I'd appreciate any help.
Thanks!                    

Friday, January 4, 2008

LUMBER

Just picked up the pine planks for my boat benches.  Had to go with "quality" boards instead of select.  Price difference is huge - quality 1x8x8' on sale for about $4.00 each, select grade were running $14.70 each.  I can live with a few tight knots....
 
I will post some pics as I get them cut, replaned, and fitted...