Any suggestions/comments on using good quality house paint (probably semi-gloss) for the interior of my daysailer? It is a partially open boat. I work for a hardware store where I can get a discount on house paints and with finances the way they are, the price of house paint versus topside marine paint makes it an attractive alternative...
I will also check with the sporting goods manager to see what kind of marine paint they could purchase for me. Problem is we normally have to order whole cases, which could either be 2 or 4 gallons or 4 or 6 quarts...
Which ever way I end up going, I will probably apply it with a sprayer...
Andy
Andy, I've been reading Culler, and rereading Gardner, lately. They both advicate using "good quality" exterior, oil base house paint. Gardner specifies Kirby as his preferance. I ordered single part polyurithaine from Blue Water paint for my boat and was generally happy with it. I brushed and it was hard to keep a wet edge. I painted in temps averaging in the low to mid 70's and it was OK if I kept adding Naptha. I think it would have been better sprayed but I don't have a compressor. The job terned out good and the stuff sure is tough, but I think I will use oil based paint on my next boat. I want to try tradiional construction and am thinking about Gardner's 17' Swampscott dory, Whatever you use I,m anxious to see the result.
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Thanks Winks - did they say it was ok both on the interior and on the hull exterior? This boat is probably going to be on a trailer when not actually being sailed... Any one else have experience using house paint on the outside of the hull?.... Andy
ReplyDeleteAndy, I do not have Gardner's book available to check this but I am sure he uses oil base house paint on the interior and exterior. Culler specifically states thaat he uses it on the interior and exterior but indicates that he uses bottom paint when aplicable. I plan to use oil base on the bottom of my next boat because it will also live on a trailer. By the way, Culler is ademet that oil base paint is adamant about the use of this paint on traditional craft. He states that while modern marine paint may be preferable on a racing 12 meter, he thinks that they look out of place on small traditional boats.
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Andy, please forgive the typo on line 3 of my previous message. I got distracted and sent it before I proofed it, but you get the drift.
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Winks, not familiar with Culler. whats his full name and the title of the book? Sounds like an interesting read. With those two illustrious builders saying it is fine, I think that is the way I will go. I at least will use house paint on the interior. Because of the evolution of my boat I am going to end up painting the bottom last. It is on the trailer now so that it can be rolled in and out as needed while I work on it (very cramped working conditions in the shop). I have pictures on the digital but unfortunately noone in my household seems to be able to pinpoint the whereabouts of the usb cable that fits it... Thanks, Andy
ReplyDeleteAndy, the name of the book is Pete Culler, on Wooden Boats. It is available at most book dealers but the Wooden Boat Store (on the wooden boat mag. web site) has it. This is what their blerb has to say, "Subtitled, A Master Craftsman’s Collected Teachings on Boat Design, Building, Repair, and Use, it’s the wisdom of the late, great boat designer and builder renowned as one of the last and best of the old-time boat builders. This book brings together the complete texts of Culler’s classic works Boats, Oars and Rowing and Skiffs & Schooners, other articles and some of his designs." Culler is more strictly traditional than Gardner, but the book has some good info. It isn't dry. Maybe not quite as enjoyable to read as Gardner (I'm a huge fan) but I would recomend it.
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Andy, the latest issue of Woodenboat (June 2008, in thepullout section past page 16) mentions using oil-based house paint (anything but high gloss), over a prime coat of Kilz or BIN. If Woodenboat says it's OK it must be true, right? Thin the paint with Penetrol until it goes on smooth, but not too thin. They recommend rolling and tipping, using a small foam roller and a reasonable paint brush - not a disposable, but you don't need a real expensive one either.
ReplyDeleteThe exterior of hull has been primed once with Valspar marine primer for wood and fiberglass. This was done a couple of years ago. It is showing some light peeling, especially where a tarp has rubbed against it. I was planning on light scraping and repriming that before painting. The interior has been primed with Zinsers 123 Bullseye (latex base) and so (with the help of all of you who commented above) I will be painting the interior with semi-gloss house paint. I did manage to find a quart of Valspar anti-foul bottom paint (in med. blue) If I can scare up another quart I will paint the hull with this. My wife likes the color so that is a good sign surely?! Anyway, thanks for all of your help... Andy
ReplyDeleteInterior gets painted today - YEAH. I ended up getting some exterior oil-based porch and floor paint from work at a good price. I hope the color choice works out. I wanted an off-white for the interior and so went with a very light creamy tan color and then the hull is being painted with a dark blue marine bottom paint from Valspar. All of the benches, and surface wood trim are being stained medium brown and then varnished. I will try and post pictures if I can borrow my daughter's camera. Noone here has yet to locate the cable from my digital camera lol. I haven't decided if I am going to paint the waterline a different color or just do an accent stripe below the gun'ls, hmmmmm. Everyone take care and have a great day... Andy
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