Sunday, February 6, 2005

Opinions-Suggestions ????

  I am looking to build a new sailboat.., a 35 to 45 foot liveaboard.., and I would like some thoughts/ideas/suggetions from the members on "which one"!
  I am kinda old-fashioned.., as I like heavy displacement, double enders, full keel designs.., and I am currently leaning towards Jay Benfords' 41 foot DE - Clayton. (a Quiet Bird design with a small pilot house. Sloop rigged.)
  .., however, I am not 'locked' into this style/kind of design.., and would appreciate any suggestions, or other plans to look at. (I have looked at several hundred and most just don't cut it.) 
  So.., if you would please drop me a note, link, suggestion.., on any liveaboard design.., under 50ft, or so.  Maybe I missed a great one (design).
  I have built three (26,32 & 38 footers).., this one is gonna be mine.., all mine!!!!

8 comments:

  1. Have you looked at Bruce Roberts designs. I have
    always been found of the Spray. It comes in several sizes and methods of
    construction. They also offer specials on equipment and building
    materials.  CHECK IT OUT.
     
    CB

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  2. Have you considered a custom design? You are getting into the area where the extra several thousand dollars to move to a custom design is not that big of a deal as a percentage of the overall cost. What you will end up with is everything you want, if it is possible to do of course. What type/s of construction are you considering?      ---Joel---

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  3. Joel, Thanks for the input.., and I have considered 'custom'.., but the 41ft Benford covers nearly everything I need and most of what I want.., once I found it, I withdrew from the hassle of custom design work.   .., But I thought i'd consider looking around before I commit the next few years of my life!   Benford offers his plans in just about every method of construction., however I am leaning towards CM.., and maybe, just possibly ply.  Stitch & Glue just doesn't work for me mentally on a boat this size.   d'lynn

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  4. CB,   Roberts is on my short list.., for a couple boats.  One is a semi-custom Spray45.., and his 60ft double ender.  The sixty would add a year, or so to the construction time and might just be too big of a boat for what I need (but not what I want! great boat!).   Been in contact with Bruce Roberts several time about the boats.., very helpful group of people.   The pre-cut steel kits are a big draw.., but I have never built in steel., and am leaning towards what I know - wood & fiberglass.   besides.., this is a wooden boat forum-right?(small joke.)   Thanks for the thoughts.  any others?   d'Lynn

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  5. Take a look at the pictures below, and plywood in a 45' boat might not seem out of line. I built this 45' design about 3 years ago and construction plans are available.    ---Joel---   http://www.devlinboat.com/sockeye45profile.jpg  http://www.devlinboat.com/sockeye454.jpg http://www.devlinboat.com/sockeye456.jpg

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  6. truly beautiful - hat will be raised & thrown in the @ the appropriate
    our of 'Bar's Buying". Anywho, would you please provide particulars like how
    long was the time span between getting plans & sail away, loved to know the
    total $ you put is this labor of love - rough estimate?
    Blown Away
    Charlie

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  7. Joel,   Great looking boat!  From the pic's the hull looks incredible.  Are you saying that this is a ply hull? Not that I am shocked, just want to know. Where did you build her? Are you associated with Devlin?   I have considered a trawler style power boat for my project., Benford's Florida Bay Coasters have always been a favorite of mine., even though I am strongly into sails - for decades.., but there is always a lot more room in a trawler-tug vs a sail boat of the same length.   And then there is the cost & maintenance of the sails!  Just how far could you travel in a power boat with what you'd shell out for a good sail rig?? Never seen any real figures on that.   Thanks for the input and pictures. d'Lynn

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  8. I run the Devlin shop in Olympia Wa. It is all plywood with the exterior sheathed in Dynel. I also do the Devlin website and you can see some construction pics of it at http://www.devlinboat.com/constructionsockeye45.htm. The boat took over 10,000 hours to build and the materials and systems were probably in the $225,000 range. Of course no expence was spared in the materials and it has everything in it. If I were to build one for myself I would certainly scale back on systems and cosmetics going for more of a workboat look inside and out which would save thousands of hours in finish and system installation.     ---Joel---

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